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He’s back with his 30 years of experience in an Outlaw MC and his no holds barred blog for SOA Season 2.
Tuesday September 23, 2008
My Name is Fat Bob
By fatbob at 12:29 pm

My friends and brothers call me Fat Bob and I been in an Outlaw motorcycle club going on thirty years. We ain’t one of the big four but we are big enough. I am second generation biker and I have seen this world change for the better over the years.  The producers of Sons of Anarchy have asked me to weigh in on their show.  They wanted the perspective of someone in the life and have given me carte blanche (within reason)  to offer critiques, opinions, gripes, praises.  Whatever.  I’ve never done this before, so we’ll see what happens.  After watching the first three episodes, here are a few thoughts –

BIKES ARE FOR RIDING.

Anybody who says the characters in Sons of Anarchy wouldn’t ride bikes like the ones in this show obviously do not ride very far. The days of the bar to bar rigid frame are over. Yeah I got one in my garage that I pull out for a short ride when I want to feel nostalgic, but when I am going to ride to Sturgis in the summer with my brothers I damn sure want a bike EXACTLY like what I see on the show. Rubber mounted with a fairing. You ain’t riding six or seven hundred miles a day on a rigid frame stopping every 65 miles for gas, or to get the feeling back in your legs, it would take a month to get anywhere.

THE ONLY THING THAT’S LOADED IS MY GUN.

I see some of you kids writing about no drugs on the show. Get your heads out of Altamont. Those days are over. We have old guys and young ones in our club and I can tell you it sure seems like the people that will last are the ones that can change with the times. Getting loaded is the past. Holding a job is the future. This thing is about being a man, a brother, putting the club first. With all the feds watching every club out there, looking for a way to classify any of us as a gang, it sure makes sense to have a job or at least look like you have one. Only the old guys party. Sure seems like the young guys are looking for the future and realize that partying is the past.

Until next week,
DON’T HATE, PARTICIPATE.

Fat Bob
Spokes MC
UNITED STATES of AMERICA

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Comments

Glad to see someone out there tryin to pass on the old ways, along with the new. I love what you’ve done with the show, it “almost” makes me wanna put a “Cut” back on….I just hope the youngns’ don’t take all of it too seriously. When I started ridin it wasn’t the “Chic” thing it is now. (dang yuppies….), All this world needs is a bunch of wanna-be’s out there tryin to be what they’re not. You know as well as I do it could get ‘em hurt. Maybe a good storyline for a show…..Kid approaches club gathering tryin to impress the guys, and gets his ass whupped for the effort. A little dose of Reality Tv! Keep up the good work. Mike

By Mike on September 25th, 2008 at 7:49 pm

Yeah must be nice to have the a bar hopper in the garage as well as the pampered puss bike. Some of us only have one bike and it has to do it all. Well one thing i have noticed in my 32 years in the saddle is that there is a huge lack of bikers (and i use the term loosely here) that actualy build or for that matter even work or repair the scooters.
My dad told me if i wanted to ride harleys that i would best be advised to buy a bike and service manual and tear it down and rebuild it from the motor up. Well a couple of months later at 16 there i was with a 1950 chopped out panhead huffing oil out the back jug that I gave 1200.00 bucks for and panhead service manual. I rode that bike for 5 years as my primary mode of transportation. Sold it and got another and started again. So now many bikes later I now own a 1973 shovel(the newest i have owned so far)that was built by me for me. To this day not one of my bikes has been in a shop.The only thing i get done at the shops is let them mount and balance my tires.
So what i would say to those serious about riding and living the biker lifestyle is learn about your ride by at least knowing how to do even the basics of repair and to know that 20,000.00 dollars and 200 miles dosent make you a biker there is a lot more to it than that.

Ride Hard
ShOvEl BoB

By ShOvEl BoB on September 26th, 2008 at 3:39 am

Thanks for the insight, watching the show I wonder how some real members of clubs feel about the show.

By dan on September 26th, 2008 at 11:16 am

Fat Bob, I appreciate your opinion. Even though your group might not be one of the big 4, there are still loads of less-known groups with just as much history. I actually wanted to see some older bikes, because I’m pretty sure that not every member of most groups rides the latest and greatest models rolling off of the showroom floor. That is the main thing that I was disappointed with. Yeah those bikes they ride are nice, but I really dig the vintage iron that I see alot of guys on custom bike websites riding.

By X1200L on September 26th, 2008 at 3:02 pm

I hear Ya on the drugs guys all doped up are not productive members of any club

By T C on September 26th, 2008 at 4:51 pm

I look forward to your insight on the show. Right now I find that it’s dragging. Additionally I look forward to hearing what you think about some of the plot lines as they develop… mainly because I was really expecting to see some insight into “Outlaw Motorcycle Clubs” a la The Wire and not some hyped up soap opera. How about posting a pics of your daily rider and the one you take out for long rides?

Peace

By Il Padrone on September 27th, 2008 at 2:40 pm

Right on to all the above.

By Stew on September 28th, 2008 at 4:13 am

I like the show, nice to see some dirty oakies on t.v. Growing up in san joaquin county I remember once you passed lockeford you see hella bikers. I was never afraid of mexicans cuz im mexican, or afraid of blacks, cuz my uncle is black. But oakies on bikes, damm them fools always looked scary . I bet the people in lovable livable lodi are going crazy with there town being mentioned on the show.
Im not a writer or anything, but some of the **** that is really hurting people right now in san joaquin county is the housing crisis. You drive through stockton and its depressing. oakieville which is in east stockton is full of abandoned homes. Plus all the rejects, and ghetto ass fools from the bay moved to the central valley cuz they couldnt afford the rent in the bay. and Hella junkies with no teeth, looking like zombies, drinking rockstars trying to get some meth.

Aight well later, like the show
oh yeah the mayans I thought that **** was funny
You had piesas, mixed with pochos
you guys should throw in some real piesas into the mix, some fools from sinaloa

By 209centralvalley on September 28th, 2008 at 10:06 am

Outlaw
Ironhorse Writer
©08/08/2007

He’s of a breed, cut from a cloth
That shall never be denied
His seeds are sewn
He stands alone
Finding solace within his ride

Babies and dogs are a weakness
Ladies are ever a vice
Loyal to his brothers
Does not play well with others
Refuses to ‘make nice’

Into the night rides the outlaw
Shadows, long past, astride
Knowing not to where
Nor does he care
Only, that he must abide

The dawn awakes to find him
Peering deep within it’s soul
Being near it
Calms his spirit
As all too soon, he must roll

Atop a steed of lightening
Commanding it’s thunderous wake
The law at his heels
The freedom he feels
A way of life at stake

Into the night rides the outlaw
Shadows, long past, astride
Knowing not to where
Nor does he care
Only, that he must abide

©Copyright2000/2008-LP.Scerri-Ironhorse Writer

By Ironhorse Writer on September 28th, 2008 at 8:10 pm

Come on guys! It’s a show nothing more nothing less! There trying to depict a 1%er club, that run guns parties and kills people! It is a 1%er club, Hello, hence the term 1%er!!! but it is not all reality. Give me a break.

I ride a rigid and it’s my only ride(FTF). If you didn’t build it - your not a biker and I’m not gonna tell you sissy’s who I ride with.

By Big Eddie on September 29th, 2008 at 3:44 pm

i agree that the days of rigid frames are somewhat by the wayside….i have guys in my club who do ride rigids…but they don’t go very far….some have a second bike…but most have something that mixes style and function…a soft tail or dyna stripped down can look great but still ride all day….my only gripe with the realisticness of the show is they don’t wear shades alot while riding….just looks fake when they don’t have glasses on….and as far as the fairings? too many of the guys have those early 90’s round ones…hate those…can’t imagine too many people in the same club having those….great show though

By Jersey on September 30th, 2008 at 6:05 am

Ok…it is a dramatized series depicting a new era. We have several clubs here that the youngun’s have pretty much taken the lead on.
My Mexican girlfriend and I were the first women riders that had balls big enough to ride the old bikes (pans, suicide, home chopped) with no colors but with a bunch of the first ABATE’rs when I moved here. My son grew up behind me and has carried on the tradition. I left the hard core stuff back on the coast… In the old days wearing your colors was grounds for being pulled over, especially if there was two or more bikes rolling! I’ve seen people die, disappear, steal rides and strip them, only to have a raging war go on between them. You had to have a safe house! Someone who didn’t know you from schmuck so you could run to if you had to when it got too hot. I’ve seen bales broken, keys laying out and been around people that you didn’t talk about. So,when I heard about this series I wondered…how far will the story telling go? I watch from a distance now, but still love the sound of bikes rolling. Thanks for trying to keep it real FatBob! Only those who have lived it really knew what it was like. RIP to lost brothers and sisters along the way.

By Mathair Sue on September 30th, 2008 at 4:33 pm

i like the show it is depicted in a way to fit with the old and the new.i know a few 81’s and they like and support the show, there are things they agree with and disagree but everyone has an opinon!all i have to say is support your local 81 loud and proud!!!!!!live to ride ride till you die

By randy on September 30th, 2008 at 6:49 pm

I have been riding for over 30 years. i have two bikes for the obvious reason. i have built an old shovel on a rigid frame that i have been riding for 28 years. i hav ebought a 2008 HD crossbones, the first new bike i have ever owned. the only reason i bought this one is that it looks like my old shovel without all of the “wrenching”.
I have ridden with two 1% clubs in my day and am still affiliated. we still party!
the dynas with the cute little fairings make me want to puke. put those boys on a real 1% bike.
If you need ideas or consulting on what “real” bikers do email me.

By crossbones on October 1st, 2008 at 10:38 am

Love the show. It is a great change to the normal ghetto, stupid, no non sense shows or even worse all the reality shows. So far it’s pretty close to true life. As a parent I’m not minding the drugs and all it’s on late enough that the young pups should be in bed anyhow. Honestly it’s life today. That’s real stuff. Keep up the good work.

Your loyal fan,

Tina

By Tina on October 1st, 2008 at 11:57 am

I love the show, also like the blog…. keep it up Fat Bob ;)

By Bravo on October 1st, 2008 at 8:26 pm

I enjoy watching your show. I’ve been scooter trash for more than thirty years. For the most part this show is close on the things they act. But try to get it right on the small details. In this weeks show they were going to look at the 48 kmuckle, well 48 was the first year for the panhead, the last year for the knuckle was 47. I was also wondering why Samcro doesnt were the 1% patch. Anyway all in all good show.
Fatboy

By Fatboy on October 1st, 2008 at 8:43 pm

so i don’t ride a harley but i do ride. i one of the sick sob’s you see riding in the middle of winter up here in the backwoods of new jersey. i love the show and watch it everyweek, even the reruns throughout the rest of the week. sure it’s not dead balls accurate but neither was the saprano’s and look how far they went. keep up the good work. can’t wait till next week!

By joe on October 1st, 2008 at 8:44 pm

HA HA HAH HAH HA HAH HA!! 48 KNUCKLE. MY BLEEDIN HEMMOROIDS! HAH HA. THE FINAL YEAR FOR PRODUCTON FOR THE VENERABLE KNUCK WAS 1946. 47 WAS THE FIRST YEAR PRODUCTION FOR THE PANHEAD, AND IT REMAINED IN PRODUCTION TIL 64…… ANYBODY THAT WOULD FALL FOR THAT CRAP DESERVES TO HAVE HIS HIDE FLAMED. ALTHOUGH WE JUST USED A BIG GRINDER FOR THE SAME PURPOSE. ****. I’M STILL LAUGHING!

By JimBob on October 1st, 2008 at 11:36 pm

Almost spit out my beer during tonights episode. “Lets go see the ‘48 Knucklehead”??
I am pretty sure that 1947 was last year of Knuckleheads, 1936 the first. 1948 was first year of Panheads. Please no comments about a Knuckle/Pans.
The E and EL models were 61 Cu. In. (1000cc) and were in production ‘36 to ‘47. The F and FL models were 74 Cu. In. (1200cc) and were in production ‘40 to ‘47. Of course they originally came with a 6 volt electrical system.

By E J Loeffler on October 2nd, 2008 at 12:22 am

Have interest in the show, but come on it is just a show. Modern version of Route 66 of the early 60’s. I have been riding for almost 40 years. Own two Harley’s because I love to ride and have job to afford them. I agree with most comment on this thread, but 1%ers are who they are and anyone who is part of a MC knows why. I presently am part of a patch club, but are far from the label that SOA tries to portray. Good to watch while sipping a brew! Keep the rubber down and chrome up!

By Pirate on October 2nd, 2008 at 8:42 am

I’ve known 1% who don’t ride 1/4 the miles I do in a year. Yeah, their bikes look nice sitting in front of the bar but they live to be feared not ride. I know of several like me who will never be restrained by a mc or want to be associated with the lifestyle. I ride my dyna everywhere and average 8k a year in Nebraska. I am a true biker I ride rain or shine and yes I do have a windshield, you go 700+ miles a day without one and tell me you don’t want/need one. Most mc members I’ve met hardly leave town on theirs, thay are just a-hole wanna be’s wrapped in colors. $20,000 and 3 patches do not a biker make!

By Rob on October 2nd, 2008 at 10:18 am

The P.M kills me PM’s don’t know if their coming or going half the time.And half Sack should have been beggin to run the torch all the PMs I ever knew we had’em half crazy,more than a boot on paris island

By ratzo on October 2nd, 2008 at 12:17 pm

FatBob?
Have been watching SOA. Don’t know if you, Fat Bob, are a full patch or somebody made up by these producers. But, I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt. As I have been watching the shows from day one, you know if you are a patch, as I am, that 90% of this is unbelievable. The patches these guys wear on their cuts, I have never seen in my life, or any Mc wear. Jax running around with Nikes and wearing hip hop pants is totally unbelievable. He looks like a wannabee who hangs around an Mc. He is not believable as a VP. The portrayal of the CH is fantasy. The female playing the Pres’ wife would never know and be involved as much as she is. There aint no queen of any club! The prospect is unbelievable–who is his daddy? I could go on and on, but I want to jump to last night’s show. I built a ‘47 Knucklehead from a basketcase. I rode it stock for awhile, suicide shift and everything, and then chopped it. If you are who you say you are, you would never have let the comment go by, “Let’s go look at the ‘48 Knucklehead.” ‘48 was the first year for Pans. The more I watch the show, the more unrealistic it becomes. Last night with the dude playing with himself, never would have happened. He would have gotten a whooping and no pervert is going to buy a patch, especially one like that. You make us all look like a bunch of knuckleheads who are bought. Also, the comment by Rob, I guess anyone can post on here. Either he is a Leo or a keyboard commando. But what he is talking about 1%ers and Mcs, he is way off base. Of course, I guess the site is open to Leos and anyone who can type a word. To sum it up, the show is getting to be a lot of lala. Need to clean it up or when it’s all said and done FX will be left holding the bag. And please, don’t show the interviews anymore with the producer wearing the sunglasses and wearing rings on every finger. The more we see it, the more it smells, and tastes like Hollywood lala. Bro, something needs to happen.

By os on October 2nd, 2008 at 4:15 pm

I agree with os, what was the point of masturbater-what a load of **** that was, someone would have slapped him with hammer first time, I have watched all episodes and been entertained but last night just made me mad-writers running out of good material already???? That sucks.

By jj on October 2nd, 2008 at 7:31 pm

I’m going to have to agree with OS…truth be told, its getting to be TOO MUCH Hollywood in the story line. The VP of the club is un-believable and most of us wouldn’t be caught dead wearing that s#$!. 1%er’s won’t give up too much information about their clubs but I can tell you that having lots a friends and family in one of the “big 4″, we pretty much get the idea of what they’re about and what line to walk when around them…this “Fat-Bob” character seems a little off base much like the characters. This is great TV for the novice biker but I’m sure there will be a few “wannabees” out there that will take this to heart. The mystique remains but the message sent on this show is not realistic.

By Bear - Centauros MC on October 3rd, 2008 at 8:28 am

Couple of things: Give the writers some credit - the whole “48 Knuck” thing was written in there on purpose - i.e. if the guy knew anything and was not there just to BS his way back in (or there as an informant…) he would have said “48 Knuck?? WTF?” and bailed when he could instead of walking back like a dumbass and getting flamed. Totally agree on Jax clothing - even if they are trying to dispell the stereotypes and introduce some “youth” into the show, no proper MC would allow a member wearing a cut - much less a VP - to be seen looking like that and besides it’s not safe - those pretty white Nike’s won’t do much for his ankles and toes if he tucks the front end. Lastly, the cowboy shoot-em-ups are a little unrealistic. Most MC enforcement or retaliation is done more surgically and intelligently without drawing attention to the club. MCs everywhere are still reeling from the stupidity that took place in Laughlin with this kind of cowboy crap. All-in-all though it’s a lot better than I expected and beats the hell out of 99% of the crap on TV - guess that mathmatically makes it a “1%” show :-)

Sonny

By Sonny on October 3rd, 2008 at 10:39 am

Sons is entertaining but protrays 1% club as organised crime for fcuk sake? its like Angels of Death or something, there are great story lines without the gun running crap, we don’t need this? 1% clubs are motorcycle club not gangsters I think it helps police get funding for they overtime payments and gang units to hassle bikers who just want to be left the fcuk alone!

By Tig on October 3rd, 2008 at 1:08 pm

One thing I’ve noticed in my travels is that there are definately regional differences. Being in a club in Texas is drastically different from being in one in California.

It’s also important to note that the “dominant” in each territory determines the rules. The thing that “Patch Over” was trying to explain, but did a poor job, is there are several levels in the MC world.

DUB > RUB> Riding Club> mom & pop MC > Traditional MC > Support Club> Dominant (often called 1%er’s)

The Pres of the dominant, actually rules the support clubs too. There may be several support clubs that are actually “farm clubs” for the dominant.

Often the pres of the support club is “placed” by pres of the dominant. Most of the Traditional MC’s are self run, but have jobs within the MC world and must exhibit a certain amount of respect for the dominant.

The term 1%er comes from years ago when the president of the AMA said that 99% of Motorcyclest are law abiding citizens. The 1%ers say they are the other 1%.

As a sign of disrespect for the AMA, a lot of clubs wear the AMA patch upside down on their cut.

The upside down patch also has come to mean, “just passing through” in a lot of territories. It’s meant to provide safe passage through another clubs territory. It is supposed to say that “I’m not here to get your territory.”

just a little info for the civillians out there.

By Poker on October 3rd, 2008 at 5:43 pm

Fatbob can really appreciate input. I love the show B.S. and all. Never been a biker but have been riding 35 years.Hate to ride in packs , best left alone. Keep up the good work and look forward to each episode!

By Jonmako on October 3rd, 2008 at 7:08 pm

A lot of good comments, and I agree with most; great show, ,lots of excitement, but, I also agree that we need some realism. I have been riding over 50 years, have been a patch holder back in the 60’s before the “Wild Angel” movie (which I own and watch periodically for a laugh). Most of the 1%ers I know, and I know a few, still wrench and build their own scoots, they may own a TC88 or even a 96, but there is no feel like the feel of a pan or shovel iron mount for getting back to what a “Old School 1%er” like myself needs occassionally. I helped my son build up an 85 sporty iron head for his first Harley and even tho it kills me to ride it very far, (too many times with the rubber in the wrong direction), I love to jump on it, break the rearend out on a dirt road and feel the front raise in the air as the rear wheel is ripping off rubber and causing major air pollution. My family keeps telling me that I am over 60, not 16, but like my handle says, once a 1%er, you are a 1%er forever! BTW we need to remember what a 1%er is, it is the 1% of motorcycle riders who are not the mainstream AMA p***ys who ride in tennis shoes, shorts and flip flops. Back in the early 60’s I learned that 1% was a badge of honour, identifying you with a need to be free, to ride hard and long and not be held down by “Civilian” rules, it was about partying after you got to a safe place, and partying for days, it was about brotherhood above everything and it was about image. One of the greatest thrills I can remember was when my club rode with a large number of other non 81s to the opening night of the Wild Angels, when Blue rode out onto the freeway and Blue’s theme started playing it pulled your spirit out from deep in your soul. After the movie ended, the sound of dozens of bikes kickin alive and blasting the night made your pulse race. My younger brother died last year, I put his ashes in the saddle bags of my 2007 streetglide, (yea geezer glide) and 1000 miles and 16 hours later we had his ceremony with Blue’s ride and song in the backgound as the Patriot Guard riders stood in honor. Now that is how a true “Biker” lives and dies!

By 1pct4ever on October 4th, 2008 at 3:08 pm

Fx: Why did you put SOA members in a cage with their colors on?? Never happens… its disrespectful to the club. If anything, you should have had them wearing them inside out.

By Drifter on October 4th, 2008 at 5:40 pm

Mike, good word! Have been all over I guess I never seen biker dressed like that, even out there?? each to whatever. The vests are outstanding!! Do you ship to the midwest? tried your web-site could not get your links to work,only vest hope you see post like to get one of them vests!!RIDE LONG AND DON’T LOOK BACK!
OS

By os on October 6th, 2008 at 10:43 am

I have a screenwriting degree AND I’m in a M.C.
There are just a couple of things that just don’t sit right with me… (Don’t pick on me too much.)

Why don’t they have any other patches on their vests? Or pins? I would at least think that they would have a R.I.P. patch for Jax’s Dad!

How is it that their WHITE patches STAY WHITE?! Is there no road dirt in CA? Not one patch looks worn out. If they were 1%er’s, they would be a little more rugged looking and their vests would be more worn from riding and the patches (especially in the front) would NOT be white!!! Sorry, it’s just my pet peeve.
They are all just too pretty looking. They need to make them a little bit more rugged. Their hair doesn’t even get messed up in the wind!
As far as helmets go, I believe CA DOES have a helmet law. We don’t have one here in MN! I get Harley Hair!!!
In my club, you can’t get a tattoo with the colors until you’ve been in the club for a MINIMUM of 15 years. That scene with the tattoo really turned my stomach. I wonder how soon they put their tats on their back, I’m thinking it’s not no 15 years.
I DO enjoy watching it though. I just have this horrible habit of analyzing everything because of my degree. It drives my sister nuts. She’s always saying, “Can’t you just sit back and enjoy a movie?” and I’ll say, “How do you do that?” That’s our running joke. It drives her nuts when I analyze movies!!! LOL

See you on the road… Harleys forever…
Kama Sutra

By Kama Sutra on October 6th, 2008 at 7:51 pm

When I first heard about the show I was convinced that it was going to be a bogus P.O.S. I watched a couple of episodes and I think I like it.

A few things are still pretty unbelievable but I guess they will fix them. For example, you don’t kill somebody every week and get away with it. You don’t get into gun fights in broad daylight without the cops showing up. A club where everybody rides Dynas? I don’t think so. Riding without shades or goggles doesn’t work with those small fairings. Some of this is minor stuff but it shows that somebody doesn’t know much about the real world.

Ozark

By Ozark on October 7th, 2008 at 2:29 pm

Was talking today with some of my bros, and we said same thing to each other. We have something to watch it won’t be perfect but so what. I don’t think it will be can because of some A….B’S

By os on October 7th, 2008 at 7:26 pm

i like the idea of a sporty for the broke brothers. i ride 1 and have been across country on it twice sturgis 06 and 08. no windscreen hardbags or radio just knees in the breeze. maybe put the probby on the 1200.

By ken hancock on October 7th, 2008 at 11:55 pm

How is it that SOA where in nevada if the Billboard was from the Antelope Valley California, coulfd you please explain.. thankx

By JIM on October 8th, 2008 at 8:08 pm

I been watch the show from the beginning. Its real close to reality. But small things piss me off. Like Jax wearing and riding with brand new white sneakers. Come on man what are you thinking. Small details like this make the show hokey.

Been riding for 37 years never with shorts, sneekers, or sandles. Let watch the details.

Scrapper

By scrapper on October 9th, 2008 at 5:26 am

I’ve survived and I’ve earned everything and every scar I’ve got. My long distance ride is an ‘01 Gilroy Chief having started on a ‘48 Chief. My back up is an ‘06 Triumph for fast and 3 midsixties BSA’s (all restored stock) for nostalgia. Great show and I’m o.k. with Jax white tennis shoes because things do change, just not my choice.

By Turtle on October 9th, 2008 at 2:33 pm

First of all. I didnt really watch alot of shows on the tube. SOA has grabbed me by the balls.The show is really kickass and i have enjoyed every episode so far. I belong to a mom and pop riding club. We get together all the time for rides and tribute runs. Anyway,keep the show rocking. Ride like they are out to get you. Ride hard and stay safe.

By big mike on October 9th, 2008 at 5:53 pm

Although I don’t like the look of Jax wearing the baggies and the white sneaks, I know a couple of old timers in their 60’s who wear sneakers. Both of them bitch about their “gouty” feet. And who put that squirrly looking clown up for membership? He looks like the last kid picked for a baseball game.

By Deacon on October 10th, 2008 at 8:23 am

I love all of yall’s comments. My mom and dad rode for 30+ years (not m/c) and it added more life to them than 3 rowdy kids could. Hated to see them sell their ride when dad’s ticker went bad. All in all I learned to respect all bikers because in my dad’s house that was what you did I don’t know much about the M/C lifestyle as parents were into a little local club with mostly tour bikes, but dad had a construction company that employed bikers . only and I can’t tell you how many “uncles” I have that are in M/C’s but I know this…this show does not tell it all. Mom was a nurse and she patched her share of uncles. When we kids asked why uncle scrumpy came over bleeding we were told that it was just a dream and to shut up!!! But, anyway like I said it’s just a show and I really don’t think that anyone watching would think that this is what the life is really about. I am with all of you, JAX is in many of my fantasies but he still needs to get rid of the white shoes! Those kill my wet dreams rather quickly!!! I think that the most important thing about SOA is that it shows brotherhood is #1 nothing else comes first. Brotherhood, family and honor are as important as the ride! Be safe bikers my heart is with you!!!

By boo on October 10th, 2008 at 10:55 am

Your details are excellent. The old shcool bikers do not know about the dress of the Red and White
in Northern Ca. They have been wearing Van tennis Shoes for about 5 to 7 years. Even some of the really old members wear them. Jax’s jeans are not ganster. That is what everybody wears here,Bay Area, including the Red and White. Ganster are way baggier than that.A Lot of Leather is out too. Chaps are joke.Girls don’t even wear them any more.

I have been in the biker world for 20 years and old school bikers never change anything.The men wear semi tight jeans with the tee shirt tucked in and a belt to show off their fat gut.Shirts need to be worn out.

Jax is thw best thing on TV. I would watch the show just to see him, but the show is excellent.

By Jacquie on October 10th, 2008 at 12:24 pm

I know the show is alot of bs but I like it
its entertaining and alot better than reality tv and the romance crap
And yes women in the mc world are not treated and respected and not passed around like on the show at least not to my knowledge nor do they run the business. I have many friends in mcs still and was married and to tell the truth divorced from an mc man I respect you guys but women like me dont fare well Im a cross between Donna and Gemma and Tara so friends with you kina guys are great
lovers takes a different kinda woman which definately aint me ride safe everyone and enjoy the show remeber its tv

By jackylred on October 10th, 2008 at 11:11 pm

Something i think the producers and writers need to understand this is not the shield slow down abit and delve into the subjects a little longer.you could of had the feds bust last at least another episode or two. The fed episode was fairly accurate but slow on down and let us enjoy and understand the good times and the bad times a little bit more.

L&R
MIKE

By LilJoesLeather on October 11th, 2008 at 10:22 am

I think the baggies and keds thing is a bit overdone, though when the mongols were on a recruiting binge they brought in a lot of gang talent off the street (some didnt even ride) anbd that may be where they are getting the idea from. Matching bikes is a joke, never seen it with ANY MC hell even the shriners scoots are a little different. But as a show, Im still gonna watch it if for no other reason than to laugh at a few things and enjoy a SHOW.
The comment about wrenching your own scoot is spot on, if you cant fix it, dont ride it. Ive been riding 30 years now and I still dont throw a leg over something I cant work on.

By Hollywood on October 11th, 2008 at 2:05 pm

Growing up in a small community that for a long time was home to an MC I learned a few valuable lessons that have become a part of my everyday life. First, mind your own business. Second, ask no questions. Finally, people are people. I went to school and was close friends with some of the kids of the MC. I always respected the MC and admired the family dinamic. My family is not MC but we have always had one belief in commomn. Family first, last and always. Its great to see a show that has the family at the center. Keep it up!

By sara on October 12th, 2008 at 10:56 am

WHAT’S UP WITH ALL THE GENITAL MUTILATION? FIRST A
BROKEN POOL CUE THROUGH THE GUY’S LEFT NUT - OR WAS
IT THE RIGHT? THEN THAT SICK F*%# LOSING HIS PACKAGE!
I AGREE THEY BOTH HAD IT COMING BUT WHATS NEXT?
MAYBE A RUSTY JACKSTAND JAMMED IN SOME LOSERS ASS!!
HOW ABOUT SAM CROW LAYING OFF BIG JIM AND THE TWINS
FOR A COUPLE OF SHOWS UNLESS OF COURSE THE VICTIM
IS THAT ATF CLOWN!!! LOVE THE SHOW - RIDE HARD

By BLACKIE on October 13th, 2008 at 5:06 pm

LoneBikeroftheApocalypse - Welcome to the 21st century. MC’s do ride baggers and “geezer glides.” Are you saying you want to go cross country on a bobber or a rat bike? Maybe you’re the DUB or is it DAB?

By DynoDave on October 14th, 2008 at 7:41 am

I love the show but have only seen the episodes on FX online. It does, on many levels remind of days gone by. At the same time, I have critiqued the show on authenticity. I’d say, for the most part, there are many obvious realistic situations especially when it comes to the sense of family and brotherhood. That is and was the most important thing. While I realize that these episodes are for entertainment value, I don’t think there’s as much action, i.e. constant gun deals going down and so on. You can bet your butt, a lot goes down, been there, done that.

I’d been a part of MC life since the early 70’s, was riding at 14 and married two, one the Sgt. at Arms, one a NY Chapter Pres so I was and am privy to more than most. Yea, us chicks are not usually included in club business but there’s always pillow talk.

I’ll look forward to seeing how the show unfolds…

By Babz on October 15th, 2008 at 6:21 am

It dosent matter what your colors are what you look like what you ride build it yourself buy it off the floor its all about that we keep the older riders dream. JUST RIDE if you look at every MC there is a group of guys looking for a reason to leave the house and ride. i would ride a moeped if thats all i had. so stick it up your a** for the guys who say b uild it your self, even though i did.

By Josh on October 15th, 2008 at 4:15 pm

reading these responses is interesting and sickening. so many dumbasses want to think they know whats really going on in the MC world, and they aint got a clue. SOA is entertainment, some of it hits real close to home, the rest is hollywood. for you stupids who say 1%ers don’t ride dynas with the sissy fairings, go to the hells angels or bandidos websites and look at all the pix of dynas with those sissy little fairings. dynas and fxr’s are the best chassis harley ever made in a lotta guys opinions. i cant believe i’m wasting my time on this, but go to the websites of real clubs if you wanta see how it really looks.
otherwise shut the hell up and watch the damn show.
Bear
SYLB

By Bear on October 15th, 2008 at 10:52 pm

Fat Bob I have never heard of Spokes MC? Where are your chapter/chapters at? You can look at our website http://www.9339mc.com. I would like to talk you to you offline I like the show of course its hollywoood and they will make taking the trash out kool and sexy, but I guess thats why they call it hollywood
WFFW
DJ

By DJ on October 16th, 2008 at 7:42 am

also, I read the descriptions of the bikes’ personal custom touches, that make each bike a personal statement of the individual.
paint?

By RIK on October 16th, 2008 at 9:07 am

I’ve been enjoying the show since its inception. I do ride my own bike, and have friends in a few clubs. I think they need to screen their show a bit better though… as Jax was giving Tara a ride in this weeks episode from the hospital and there’s a segment between them leaving the hospital, and arriving at her house (followed by the ATF agent) in which Jax is the only one on the bike… can we say ooops!~!

And to beat a dead horse once more.. the white tennis shoes gotta go… get real!

Another side note.. for people who have been in a club as long as some of these characters.. their colors are way too clean..distressed leather would have worked better.

By bykerlady on October 17th, 2008 at 12:16 am

You folks want to see the real deal? HAMC SFV poker run this weekend. It ain’t no Luv Ride.

By Mr. MFIC on October 17th, 2008 at 3:19 pm

Who the Hell are Spokes Mc. I’v Been around 1%ers 30 years and never heard of Spokes Mc. I guess the Hell your not one of Big Four. Your not even in the top 10.

By Moutainman on October 17th, 2008 at 7:04 pm

I get the SAMCRO thing, but what exactly is Redwood? The town is Charming, and Redwood was the original chapter. Is there a town called Redwood?
-I still don’t know what a D.U.B. is.

By RIK on October 17th, 2008 at 10:42 pm

I have watched SOA and I thought it was ok, I thought some of it was a bit far fetched, like Clays old lady talks too much, like she is some deciding factor in something? I been around enough to know that aint how it works, unless I haven’t watched enough of her to see Clay just amuse her by letting her talk behind closed doors and then blow her off.. having been the old lady of a member to a well known MC, women knew there place, the old ladies befriended the other “old ladies” but not the hoe’s or patch chasers all though we weren’t threatened as we knew what they were for, the out of town members or just play toys. overall though I think its a pretty good show, and kind of gives you an idea of the lifestyle.

Thanks

By Michele on October 18th, 2008 at 8:26 am

I’m pretty sure it stands for Redwood County

By Mark on October 18th, 2008 at 7:39 pm

I think D.U.B. is someone’s twist on an old acronym - dumb urban biker.

“You folks want to see the real deal? HAMC SFV poker run this weekend. It ain’t no Luv Ride.”

The real deal? C’mon man…its a “poker run”. Damn, site is bringing out the posers.

By Bear on October 20th, 2008 at 1:46 pm

Can we have some more details on the MYANS,that would be nice…..along with some pics of their scoots ……thanks

By ratzo on October 21st, 2008 at 4:48 am

The show is GREAT! It’s a fictional series based on a very real lifestyle. And reading these comments was almost as amusing as watching the show.

Blah blah blah… ‘48 knuck, mouthy ol’ lady, matching rides, prospect knows too much. Whatever… it is what it is. Fiction.

My little girl knew a knuck from a pan and what years they were made when she was 8. And she wouldn’t make a fuss about baggy jeans and sneakers. And not because she’s seen guys wearing clam diggers (short pants) and sandals with their “cut” at bike week (she was little and asked why they were wearing “girls’ pants”… I explained that the Canadians are crazy enough to be able to wear whatever they want without comment from anyone SMART.) She doesn’t have to be a *real biker* or even an *adult* to understand that the proverbial 400 pound gorilla wears whatever it wants. But the reason she wouldn’t make a fuss is because she knows that it’s a TV SHOW, dammit!

Anyway…
Keep the excellent ENTERTAINMENT coming. A show like this, about an important part of American culture, has been a long time coming.

And I’ll definately be back to read more comments, too. Keep those coming, as well… if you’re not too busy blogging about how “John Gotti would never have *insert inane plot detail here* like Tony Soprano did.”

ps unlike lots of you other posters, I’m not “real-er” than anyone. In fact, I’ve never even SEEN a motorcycle up close… well, maybe a Vespa >;O

*giggle*

~Smoothie~

By Smoothie on October 23rd, 2008 at 5:15 am

Well, finally some decent looking bikes on the show!! All ridden by the Mayans!!

All in all, it’s still a good show!!

By Bogan on October 23rd, 2008 at 12:41 pm

When the Heavens Devils “merged” with the Outlaws it was a memorable time for all, affecting the entire biker community in some way some happy some sad. When did the term “patch over” come in to use ? Remember when you tore down your bike every winter ’cause you could’nt ride it very safely anyway, you laced your own wheels, raked and molded your frame, 21″ with a spool hub, extended springer, no front fender, 16 x4 was as big as ya got in the back with a sissy bar solo seat and ‘P’ Pad, rear drum might stop ya at the light and the leg cramps at night made ya swear to one day install an electric start? Old School when ride with pride meant more…the seventies kids. FTW

By gordy on October 23rd, 2008 at 4:03 pm

I absolutely love this show and hope they do not take it off. I cant wait for each week for the next episode. Jax could eat crackers in my bed anytime.

By Good and Plenty on October 23rd, 2008 at 5:33 pm

Jax is soooo hot! When he smiles my panties melt! The sex scene with the doc after killin the psycho ATF stalker blew my mind! What a rush!
And Jax’s Mom, ruthless - just as she should be.
Can’t get enough! Until next Wednesday…

By Hippie Chick on October 23rd, 2008 at 9:51 pm

I just want to say that this show is awesome. Me and my ol’ lady watch like it was church. One thought that everyone has had is true, There is no individuality with the bikes. I have my club colors on my bike as do some of my brothers. Show ‘em proudly

O.F.F.O G.F.O.D.

By Rambler 1%er on October 24th, 2008 at 9:58 am

Like the show keep the action comin but we all know that in the real world that most of the time we’re all just sittin around shooting the **** not each other. One thing is missing maybe I’m looking to hard but anybody that rides without a windshield knows what that is Eye protection.

By Tony "No Pockets" on October 25th, 2008 at 8:09 am

I said “dip$hitty” for crying out loud on being censered here…egad folks.

By InsaneJane on October 25th, 2008 at 8:55 pm

Anyone know what brand cigars and who supplies the studio with their smokes?

Second stupid question, what kind of fairings are those things and who the hell thought it would look cool with drag bars? But what the hell I seen worst on the roads where I fly.

By Racer93 on October 26th, 2008 at 2:51 pm

Hi Fatbob,

I wrote some stuff that I want to send to Kurt Sutter? Can you help me get it to him? Do I send it to fxnetworks and just hope it finds it way or can you share a better address?

Thanks, Lil’Bro

By Barb on October 27th, 2008 at 11:42 am

The only thing I could improve on the last episode was to have them doing the big nasty while ATF dude was still alive clutching his gut then shoot him.

Yes, one sick Bit$h so what.

By InsaneJane on October 29th, 2008 at 8:12 pm

Some posters need to lighten up a bit! This is only a TV show played by actors playing roles. These guys hand over their “colors” to the wardrobe guy when the days shooting is done, have their bikes pushed into a warehouse and drive their Hybrid home to Beverly Hills. It’s a fun show to watch, I groan when it’s stupid and cheer when it’s cool, but it’s all FAKE! It’s a biker soap opera, so sit back and enjoy it for what it is while it lasts!

By Backwards Bob TFFT on October 30th, 2008 at 8:45 am

Hey saw the show last night..WAY TO go D.L. now that is a real member..looking good…

By HARLEYGIRL81 on October 30th, 2008 at 7:33 pm

Hey Fat Bob,
My Old Man and I are dedicated SOA watchers. It brings back alot of memories. We I don’t ride with the club any more ( I use to with my ex) due to being disabled, but I still stay intouch with my brothers and sisters. I miss the life especially when I’m watchin SOA. The Old man keeps sayin he will be surprised if it doesnt win any awrds. I have a funny feelin about Clays SAA. Whadaya think.
Well, keep the shinny side up. Take care
Innocent woman (LANH)

By InnocentWoman on October 31st, 2008 at 1:55 pm

Awesome Show!
Sure there are a lot of obvious details that anyone that rides knows is B.S…. But hey it’s TV. It’s entertaining and it keeps us coming back for more. If it was realistic it would be a documentary. I ride hard and I ride because I enjoy it. Sure the MC life looks cool but again it’s TV. I’m not in an MC, I know people who ran with members of the 81 back in the 70s and 80s. But I’m into riding and hanging out with my friends. The show is awesome and yes some of the details should have been checked before putting them on the air, but then again it isn’t real. Keep it going, it’s the best thing on TV. Ride safe everyone.

By Bad Andy on November 1st, 2008 at 8:56 pm

Hay Fatbob, Some people think your real some dont who cares. I started riding on the back of my aunts sportster in 1970 when i was 3. then when my parrents split up i lived with a great foster home that hung with a club in MASS. cant rember the club but def not one of the big 4. that club took stiches out of my head when i was 5 years old in there club house.it was great. thay gave me a hammer pen becous i did not cry. I got my first ironhead for $800 when i was 20 road that scoot for 10 years every were. today i have a small collection of bikes 7 to be exact ( who cares) mostley shovel heads i love them all but like you said on long halls comfort is wear its at mostley i ride my 03 ultra classic like to STURGIS 08 pulling my trailer behind it with all my gear. that was a solo ride best trip ever boston to sturgis. i respict the club thing go to partys with a club in NH. great groop. personaly i cant be told what to do so i won’t join. but let me tell you what thay party like muther f#@$ers young and old alike! oh ya the show. mabe its me but how old is Jax he looks to young to be V.P. thanks for your time. RIDE HARD RIDE FREE.

By shovelhead on November 3rd, 2008 at 11:11 am

Get Real Woman…MC also stands for Men’s Club…
There are no women allowed to be members in a Real M.C.

Even as “Property of”…You are not a member.

Men are in charge of all Club Property including
“Property of” Patches.

Get Over It.

By Hammer on November 4th, 2008 at 4:03 pm

Fatbob, It’s nice having you give your unbiased opnion of the show, I haven’t missed an episode, I live in the state of the milwaukee iron. Maybe the producers will see fit to give you a brief cameo….. or would that be out of the question for you? Also which one of these is more authentic? the SOA or Beyond the Law-with Charlie Sheen? keep up the good work. Ride Free

By Metaldogg on November 5th, 2008 at 11:15 am

I have heard that there is a MC in Indianapolis named or titled, not sure of the right term to use, “Sons of Silence,” is that true and if so, does the show have any semblance the this MC?

By Karry Jo on November 5th, 2008 at 9:24 pm

I agree with outlawnavajo 13. I know some pretty fine men that have awesome jobs and they are the 1% type if you must use this. They portray the old man old lady thing a bit odd. Personal problems never are allowed with club business. That can make or brake a Club. The old ladys are either tight or out of sight. There is no in between. What goes on at the clubhouse or on the road is not even mentioned let alone brought on as a suggestion on a TV show. House mouses and or mommas are just that. Clean cook and run erronds and etc. Loyal to a fault or not even there. I have seen no mention to the fact that the ATF has then under surveillance in such a small town and no one knows about it? PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have shown my boobs to more feds than to men, just by simply looking above or around or to repetative movement. Just a hint to the show if anyone is interested. I will be back for more just to see if you keep on your toes FatBob. You are my kinda guy!Also I have never seen a club member wear a cut in a vehicle. They may carry them but not wear them in a car.Just my opinion from a long ago awesome history.

By Alaska Babe on November 6th, 2008 at 3:27 am

Hey Jane I like your style!

By Backwards Bob TFFT on November 6th, 2008 at 9:08 am

Cool never so real about time a realityshow how much some dont know how this is in real live for some of us but its what we do
wolverine

By Wolverine on November 6th, 2008 at 12:26 pm

Great show, I am a little disappointed in the rides though, I thought I would see a few more oldiea and baggers.I loved it when the chic cop got her face smashed too! Also great when Jax shot the ATF dude. Great show, cant wait till next week. This reminds me of the good days when I was wearing the patch. I really miss the club thing however I had to relocate for my job and getting to old to prospect, I support our local 81.I would love to be apart but just cant see it right now.

By vtxkid on November 6th, 2008 at 2:02 pm

Id like to know what Jax s is rideing. I know its a Superglide but does anyone know what year it is and whats been done to it? The type of fairing what front end work etc? I like the way the handle bars are. You have full control he sits high in it and the higher the better for throwing your weight around when you need and seeing whats a head sitting down low isnt a good idea for me anyway . Ape hangers and choppers are great to look at just not for me you get caught up in some street car tracks or have to stop fast in the rain you will pay the price for rideing one one those. I know what I am talking about haveing all most ript of my left leg of trying to fit in betten a bus and a car in the middel of a small hidden hill. I can see why the cast members ride those bikes they have more of a chance going home with your legs and arms still attach. I am going to build one and have it painted the same and also getten same ****en white sneakers lol. Love the show it isnt perfect but who cares its great!

By 1%RJ on November 7th, 2008 at 4:39 pm

hi there, fatbob, fatdavy from belfast northern ireland here.
we r just coming to the end of season 1 of soa, it finishes 2night actually, and i must admit 2 finding it an absolutely fantastic piece of television. this is especially so because the mainstream of programmes made on this side of the pond are of the ‘reality’ based tv which is piss poor in my view. therefore, i cannot praise this refreshing tv prog enough!!!!
anyhow, i was wondering if u could answer a query that i have. could u tell me what style/name of the sunglasses that jax wears in the show. the old rebel in me wants a pair for my upcoming birthday!
any help with this would make an old fat lad very happy!

heres hoping,
belfastdavy

By fatdvy on August 4th, 2009 at 11:56 am

I cut my “biker teeth” with a 1% Club as a 20 year old nursing student 1975. Bought a 63 Pan for $1200 in 1982…first bike and she’s what I learned to ride on. IMHO I think you guys are doing a pretty good job of portraying club life. I was actually surprised…expected the show to be cheesy. Rock on and Ride Free!!
Purple Pan Cindy

By Purple Pan Cindy on August 16th, 2009 at 7:28 am

I was wondering if that was Carry Underwood playing that porn star on tonights show 9-22-09

By Zander on September 22nd, 2009 at 11:25 pm

Ohhh!! bye the way this Angel drives a Indian Chief, phuck Harley’s.
People 4get we paved the way or them

Mari’ana

By BleedinHeart on September 28th, 2009 at 7:27 pm

Man I think your pretty much spot on about what a real club is and what some perceive it to be. The old days are long gone and thankfully I’ve survived them. We used to gauge how good the Laconia run was every year by the number of people who got killed. No **** some times there would be as many as 6 or 7 some do to just plain stupidity, some from crashing their bike and some form lets just call it over zealous interaction between organizations. Now a days we go up there and we’re the quite ones, all mellowed out just enjoying each other company and enjoying be able to ride one more day. It seems to be the Jap bike crowd has something to prove acting just plain stupid bothering the citizens needlessly. Trying to relive the Wild one with Marlon Brando.
You know the drill.
I’m with ya on the bikes they ride too. For us the ride of choice is either the FXR or a Dyna Got one of each out in the shop. Of course I still have my old flat side dresser,and my Pan/Shovel rigid with a Denver’s Choppers springer up front with a 22″ front wheel laced to a no brake hub that take three lanes to make a U turn but they’ll put that sucker and the dresser int he hole with me when they bury my sorry ass.

The show is all and all pretty good except some times there is just too much drama, like the rift between Clay & Jax you yourself know that kinda **** would have been settled right quick with either one or both going for an ambulance ride and or getting kicked out of the club. Most of the time bad **** was settled by our club prez. and it was over and done with and forgotten about or else.
The think about the big throw down between the Ariana’s and Sam Crow your ten best against my ten best come on man give me a break there either would have been lead flying or guys swinging ballpein hammers
or kickstand. I guess Hollywood has to get their hands in there some times so they can keep it on TV. All and all I think they nailed the cast down pretty good too. The club characters are all believable and fill the roles well.
All in all it’s a pretty good show I just hope they keep it real and don’t get too stupid with the story line like a lot of shows on TV that started out good and got stupid real fast.

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